A Wake-up Call for Civil Society
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To Guest:
Sorry to say this but your reaction sounds like a tone of a desperate & disturbed person. An awful thing about our human nature is that...in every catastrophe, pains and sorrows that we endure...we easily blame and condemn it to others such as your loveones, the government, the society, God....whatelse? the list is long. Being reliant & dependent to others is the cancer to our society. You deprived to govern your inner self because you are afraid to fail that even your simple mistake be easily pointed to others. Did you ask yourself these questions.... Are you worth it to question other entities? what have you done? Did you do your share? the answer lies on you. Peace & love.
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Sorry to say this but your reaction sounds like a tone of a desperate & disturbed person. An awful thing about our human nature is that...in every catastrophe, pains and sorrows that we endure...we easily blame and condemn it to others such as your loveones, the government, the society, God....whatelse? the list is long. Being reliant & dependent to others is the cancer to our society. You deprived to govern your inner self because you are afraid to fail that even your simple mistake be easily pointed to others. Did you ask yourself these questions.... Are you worth it to question other entities? what have you done? Did you do your share? the answer lies on you. Peace & love.
-bonsal
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pwesssssss...i meant, PEACE starts within yourself, if one cannot do such, one cannot have one at all ever....desperately sad to say that "guest" is extremely angry to "everything". wheeew! those are heavy expositions. but, tell you what, "guest" what if some could care less, and here you are venting over your spell to your own country? aren't you're just creating your own momo? i must say, i am smart enough to say, "damn if i care, damn i don't!" like what you've said, they don't care, so why should i? i want to live my life like it's my last-happiness is my priority within my family (siblings,neices and nephews, close cousins).basta ba daily bread namo to say hi and hello though distance is killing us, ok na sa ako yaon. sounds dramatic, but hey, we only have one life to live, try to put smile on your face like i always do.... (nah nah not that, purag-ak na sab yaon) : (yeah yeah just like those...pa kyut and demyur bah!!!) heheheh ok love,peace and kinilaw dayon! so therefore, accusing/blaming someone has no place for the time being. dili sa yaon ka sulbad nan problema. instead, find means to what is the best resolution there could be...who knows ikaw pa an cause nan pag kasulbad nan problema heheh. i'm just proud being a filipino and also proud that i haven't voted at the same time hahaha, at least dili ako magbasol sino inbutar ko, wara say tuho ako choice kanaman. bad citizen ha...( seiko da!)
smayl tho' yur hart is eking!
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smayl tho' yur hart is eking!
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Jawbreaker's sentiments
a friend of mine shared this and i am with him when he said:
its people like jawbreaker that makes it even harder for the country to fully recover.
I will not accept his statements and conclude that the country is hopeless.
let him express his sentiments, but as for me, I will continue to hope in the Lord.
Psalm 33:12
Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, the people he chose for his inheritance.
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I would like to add that jawbreaker did raise
some hilariously true points..
However, we all have our share of broken hearts when it comes to our nation,
but becoming bitter, will not really change anything!
What I believe is that while there is life, there is and always
will be, hope. Unless we hope in God tho, we will only be wishful
thinkers!
-yani
its people like jawbreaker that makes it even harder for the country to fully recover.
I will not accept his statements and conclude that the country is hopeless.
let him express his sentiments, but as for me, I will continue to hope in the Lord.
Psalm 33:12
Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, the people he chose for his inheritance.
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I would like to add that jawbreaker did raise
some hilariously true points..
However, we all have our share of broken hearts when it comes to our nation,
but becoming bitter, will not really change anything!
What I believe is that while there is life, there is and always
will be, hope. Unless we hope in God tho, we will only be wishful
thinkers!
-yani
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pepz...don't be disgusted about the statement of guest, it's a chain email made by a concerned Juan dela Cruz...actually, the author was named Carlito A. Tandoc (unless the guest is Mr. Tandoc, i should be amazed that he found our site).
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TO THOSE WHO ARE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH
Let me share to you a forwarded email from Allen Montenegro.
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TO THOSE WHO ARE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH - jueteng allegations and wiretap
>conversations
>
>Mag-imbestiga at Alamin ang KATOTOHANAN!
>
>KILALANIN ANG MGA PERSONALIDAD NA NAGBABATO NG AKUSASYON SA ATING
>ADMINISTRASYON AT HUMIHILING NA BUMABA SA PWESTO SI
>PGMA:
>
>1. Wilfredo "Boy" Mayor
>* Jueteng witness who admits to being a former operator of jueteng in
>the Bicol Region.
>
>* He claims to have given Monthly Jueteng Payola to bagmen of
>Congressman Mikey Arroyo.
>
>* He was an opposition candidate for Mayor in Daraga, Albay in the 2004
>elections. He lost the elections.
>
>* Mayor admits that he has no evidence to show that the money he cl
>aims to have given these bagmen went to Congressman Mikey Arroyo
>
>2. Richard Garcia
>* Jueteng witness who is a self-confessed former operator of the
>illegal numbers game in the Bicol Region.
>
>* He claims to have given Monthly Jueteng Payola to bagmen of
>Congressman Mikey Arroyo. He admits that he has no evidence to show
>that the money he claims to have given these bagmen went to Congressman
>Mikey Arroyo
>
>* A former member of the PC-INP and a known "asset" of Ping Lacson
>
>3. Sandra Cam
>* She claims to have personally given Jueteng Payola to Congressman
>Mikey Arroyo and Congressman Iggy Arroyo at the Congress Session hall
>(while Congress was in session). She claims to have deposited Jueteng
>Payola for former Region 5 Regional Director Gen. Restituto Mosqueda.
>
>* Ran for Mayor in Masbate under Reforma in the 2004 elections and
>lost.
>
>* Has a pending illegal recruitment case and pending large-scale estafa
>cases
>
>* Known in Bicol to have engaged in all possible illegal activities and
>to be "close" to generals previously assigned in the Bicol region. The
>staff of known hotels in Bicol would know this.
>
>* Reportedly a lover of Governor Tony Kho
>
>* linked to several election-related incidents, including dynamiting
>houses of political opponents, kidnapping and murder.
>
>* In her testimony before the Senate, Cam admitted to being a supporter
>of Governor Tony Kho, who has been charged with masterminding the
>killing of Representative Tito Espinosa. The case is still pending in
>court.
>
>4. Archbishop Oscar Cruz
>* Says that it is his personal advocacy to stop Jueteng
>
>* His name never came out during the 2000 impeachment trial where
>jueteng was a key issue. If it is the archbishop's personal advocacy to
>stop jueteng, why is it only now that Archbishop Cruz is coming out
>with all these witnesses and accusations ?
>
>* Previously hugged the headlines when he accused Pagcor chairman
>Efraim Genuino of using female employees of Pagcor as GRO's or Guest
>Relations Officer during a birthday celebration of First Gentleman Mike
>Arroyo. This was denied by the Pagcor chairman and the female employees
>themselves who apparently were with their families during the said
>birthday celebration.
>Archbisop Cruz made an apology to the families of the Pagcor female
>employees.
>
>And thanks to the Catholic Church for realizing early that Ong was not
>a man with a word of honor. They kicked Ong out of the seminary for not
>keeping the gentleman's agreement for not giving interviews to press
>while in the seminary.
>
>5. Alan Paguia
>* He initially claimed to be the source of the audio tape
>
>* Known to be a former lawyer of Erap and reportedly gets a monthly
>salary of 1 Million pesos a month from the detained former president.
>
>* License as a lawyer was suspended by the Supreme Court
>
>* His credibility and background was being questioned; and more
>critical, was his own admission that he made the annotation and thereby
>tampered with the original audio tape.
>
>6. Samuel Ong
>* Former NBI deputy director
>
>* Came out on National TV on June 10 and claimed that he was the source
>of the original copy of the audio tape and that it was given to him by
>an Intelligence official (ISAFP) who was later identified as Tech. Sgt.
>Vidal Doble. Doble claims that he was offered 2 Million pesos and his
>family was threatened by Ong.
>
>* Ong had often organized mass actions to support his ambition to be
>director of the NBI.
>
>* During the NBI investigation of the Dacer-Corbito murder case, the
>principal suspect Superintendent Teofilo Vina who could link Ping
>Lacson to the case was killed in Cavite in January 1993. It is known
>that Ong who was still influential then as deputy director had a hand
>in this to get Lacson of the hook. During the 2004 elections, he was
>ordered by Lacson to join the FPJ camp to serve as Lacson's eyes and
>ears.
>
>- AND AFTER ONG WAS BYPASSED BY ARROYO FOR THE TOP NBI POST and chose
>Wycoco instead.
>
>* He said that he fears for his life. One would wonder how these words
>would come fro m a person who once aspired to be an NBI director. He
>chose a career in the National Bureau of Investigation that entails
>agents to confront death threats on a daily basis. Was the media
>presentation, with Ong
almost
>crying out of fear for his life and character actor Rez Cortez beside
him a
>mere
>"sarzuela". WE SHOULD TAKE NOTE THAT SINCE PGMA BECAME PRESIDENT, THERE
>HAS NEVER BEEN A CASE OF AN EXECUTION OR PROLONGED INCARCERATION OF ANY
>OF HER CIVILIAN CRITICS INSPITE OF THE FACT THAT A LOT THESE CRITICS
>HAVE GONE OVERBOARD.
>
>7. Jose Marie Gonzalez - "voice expert"
>* Media's so called electronics and communications expert who initially
>said that the audio tapes were authentic and not tampered. What audio
>tape was he referring to when Paguia's version was (according to Paguia
>himself) recorded with annotation and thus was tampered. The other
>"so-called original" version was only released by Ong on June 10, 2004.
>
>* A former congressman and well-known Erap supporter
>
>* He slapped the house sargeant-at-arms in front of national TV during
>the transmittal of the impeachment complaint against Erap in late 2000.
>How uneducated and barbaric!
>
>* Was given a house in Subic and a brand new red Lincoln Navigator
>during Erap's presidency.
>
>* Reportedly got 10 million from Mayor JV Ejercito for coming out with
>his "expert opinion" on the audio tape.
>
>8. Senator Nene Pimentel
>* Senate President during the Erap administration.
>
>* resigned from then majority party when the envelope containing the
>Jose Velarde account was not allowed to be opened by majority of senate
>members.
>
>* Held the Microphone during PG MA's oath taking at Edsa 2.
>
>* Went back to criticizing PGMA when he was not chosen as Vice
>President after EDSA 2.
>
>* His No. 1 soldier is his long time ally in PDP Laban - Mayor Jejomar
>Binay. During EDSA 2, Binay brought in the goons to intimidate
>protesters from the business community in Makati. Since then, Makati
>has been the site of destabilization attempts against PGMA namely the
>Coup/Mutiny in Oakwood and their planned EDSA 4 in San Carlos last June
>11. Binay was one of the first people seen in San Carlos Seminary.
>
>* Still has ambitions to be president.
>
>9. Senator Ping Lacson
>* He once said that he despised and he never wants to be a politician.
>
>* He is on his 2nd term as senator and he ran for president during the
>2004 elections
>
>* has always portrayed a clean, incorru ptible image. he always says
>that he never took a single centavo from illegal means, jueteng
>included. He has also boasts of not utilizing his pork barrel.
>
>* Most generous when it comes to "envelopmental journalism". Lacson has
>a pool of media personnel on a monthly payola. Lacson's most effective
>media tool is mass-based publication Abante where Ping Lacson writes in
>a regular column. Mr. Allen Macasaet, Owner of Abante, reportedly has
>been receiving 5 million pesos a month from Ping Lacson since 2003 . 37
>year old Allen Macasaet, lives in posh Ayala Alabang and reportedly
>owns a Ferrari(worth 12 Million), a BMW 9 series (worth 11 Million), a
>Porsche 911 (worth 10 Million), a Jaguar (worth 8 million), a Range
Rover
>(worth 9 million), two Chevrolet Suburbans (worth 2.5 Million each), a
Ford
>E150 Chateau Van, and a Honda Accord - all purchased brand new.
Perhaps,
>his nei ghbors in Ayala Alabang can attest to Mr. Allen Macasaet's
>ownership of these luxury vehicles. NO WONDER 95% OF ABANTE HEADLINES
>IS ANTI-PGMA. And what a good choice of newspaper... masang masa...
>could readily reach millions of ordinary filipinos.
>
>* Now comes the Million Dollar Question ???? Where does Senator Ping
>Lacson (who boasts that he does not get his PhP 200 Million a year
>"pork barrel fund) get funding to finance a successful senate campaign,
>a decent but unsuccessful presidential campaign, and still afford a
>very generous media payola ???
>
>* He has been linked to kidnap-for-ransom of rich Fil-Chinese
>nationals, illegal drug trafficking, Kuratong-Baleleng massacre,
>Dacer-Corbito slay.
>
>* In 1993, Ping Lacson reportedly was getting the biggest monthly
>payola from jueteng lord and convicted rapist-murderer Mayor Antonio
>Sanchez of Calauan, Laguna. Thus, the attempt to cover-up Mayor
>Sanchez's crime by initially pointing to Kit Alqueza, son of general
>Dictador Alqueza, as the mastermind of the celebrated rape-slay of
>Aileen Sarmenta and boyfriend Allan Gomez. Ping Lacson was then head of
>PACC who presented the young Kit Alqueza to then vice-president Erap
>Estrada and media.
>
>* Ping Lacson has had access to suppliers of wire-tapping devices as
>early as his PACC days. During a raid of the CIDG after EDSA 2,
>wire-tapping devices purchased during Ping Lacson's term as PNP chief
>were confiscated from camp crame and stored in CIDG's warehouse. Said
>confiscated devices remain stored in the CIDG warehouse until this day.
>
>* With his seemingly infinite monetary resources and political clout as
>2nd termer senator, it is highly probable that Ping Lacson himself owns
>the latest model of wire-tapping/ bugging devices.
>
>* Even with the exposure of his links to people behind the audio tape,
>he was still the one who had the tape authenticated by a private
>australian firm.
>
>* He came out with the results from the Australian firm on the night
>Friday, June 10. How could he have gotten a copy of the original when
>Sammy Ong (who claims to be acting on his own and says he does not know
>Ping Lacson) only surfaced with the so-called original copy on the
>afternoon of June 10? The previously claimed original was the annotated
>and tampered version of Alan Paguia.
>
>* Ping Lacson's former men in the PACC that could implicate him in his
>criminal activities are either dead (Supt. John Campos, Supt. Teofilo
>Viña, Kit Mateo) or hiding in the US ( Michael Ray Aquino and Cesar
>Mancao). Lacson quickly points to his enemies as behind the execution
>of his former trusted aides. If this allegation were true, why would
>Lacson's enemies target his men instead of killing him (Lacson). The
>fact is Lacson ordered the execution and hiding of his former men
>before the May 2004 elections to make sure that no one could directly
>implicate Lacson in his criminal activities. Perhaps Samuel Ong should
>fear Lacson as Ong is also a
person
>who could implicate Lacson in the present destabilization moves.
>
>* After the 2004 elections, Ping Lacson became supportive of PGMA's
>government and even did not join the opposition's protest actions
>during FPJ's wake. He believed then that if he behaved this way, he
>would be a sure bet for President come 2010. However, he again started
>to be PGMA's biggest critic recently. Perhaps PGMA's illegal drugs
>campaign which has closed down the most number of Shabu Laboratories in
>recent years and anti-ki dnapping campaign is already affecting
>Lacson's treasure chest and he fears that by 2010, his funds would not
>be enough to run a successful presidential campaign against a popular
>Mar Roxas.
>
>10. Erap, Jinggoy, Loi and JV Ejercito
>* They clearly want one thing : to exact revenge on PGMA
>
>* This is very evident at how Senator Jinggoy and Loi have been
>grandstanding during the senate inquiry on jueteng.
>
>* Senator Jinggoy and San Juan Mayor JV Ejercito were one of the first
>people to join Sammy Ong ( who said that he was acting on his own and
>the he was calling on Ms. Susan Roces to join him) in San Jose
>Seminary. They were interviewed over ANC and both Jinggoy and JV
>attacked PGMA and repeatedly said that the opposition had an executive
>committee, with ERAP as ex-officio chairman, that was ready to replace
>the administration in case we are "miraculously swept into power".
>
>- Boracay mansion?, Rest house in Rizal? Laarni Estate?, Couple
>thousand pesos worth of wine consumed by Erap daily?, extravagant and
>lavish lifestyle of Estradas? Luxury cars, Vans, Resorts, owned by
>them? Ganon ba kaguapo at kaganda ang katawan para maging action star
>si Jinggoy para kumita ng milyon milyon sa pelikula? Erap's endless
>womanizing, morals, gambling, whose
only
>legit earnings mostly came from showbiz? against an already known rich
>family of the Tuasons and Arroyo's? - Who's probably more corrupt? Why
>not
attack
>PGMA directly? Coz they can't see any reason to attack? So they go
>attacking PGMA's family coz they don't know how to attack PGMA.
>
>We Filipinos should investigate further why key people coming out with
>all these accusations and calls on PGMA to step down have in one way or
>the other been linked to leaders in the opposition like Ping Lacson or
>Erap. We should not take everything that media comes out with as
>absolute truths since it is already our country's future that is being
>threatened by these people. During the wake of FPJ last year, it was
>already reported that the opposition was hatching a plan to bring down
>the Arroyo administration. The opposition clearly wanted to use FPJ's
>death to bring down PGMA. Susan Roces herself mentioned to a confidant
>during the wake that some opposition leaders then were convincing her
>to lead them in bringing down PGMA. If indeed the opposition had in its
>possession the audio tape that they claim to be a phone conversation
>made immediately after the May 2004 elections between PGMA and Comelec
>Commissioner Garcilliano, why did they not come out with the audio tape
>during the wake or burial of FPJ when
>millions of FPJ mourn ers were out on the streets ? It could have
easily
>resulted
>to an early end to the Arroyo administration. Perhaps they were still
>working on the tape with their "expert engineers" during that time.
>
>The people behind the efforts to bring down PGMA have not succeeded in
>spite of the desperate moves they have made primarily because they have
>never been united . They have several leaders who all want to be
>acknowledged as the legitimate and the unanimous opposition leader.
>There is Erap and his families who want to regain lost glory and power;
>there is a Ping Lacson who despises politicians and yet desperately
>aims to be president; and there is Nene Pimentel who still dreams of
>becoming president which he hopes would happen before his eye bugs
>covers his face. All these destabilization moves is a result of the
>individual aspirations of these people to grab power.
>
>Susan Roces has experienced this when the opposition could not even
>unite behind a strong FPJ during the 2004 elections. She experienced
>this during her husband's wake and burial when public sympathy was
>there but again the opposition was not united. She experienced this
>during the opposition's planned call for an EDSA 4 last June 11 when
>according to her confidant, the opposition were still fighting among
>themselves even during the early hours of June 11 on what moves to
>take. At around 2:30 am of June 11, Senator Ping Lacson, Senator
>Jinggoy Estrada, Senator Serge Osmeña, Senator Jamby Madrigal and Mayor
>Binay were in Manila Peninsula Hotel in Makati discussing their next
>steps but still arguing on the details as well as to who would be their
>leader when they succeed in bringing down PGMA. Susan Roces was
>supposed to call for their supporters to March to the st reets.
>According to her confidant, Susan Roces just decided to call for
>sobriety and just manifest her moral support for Sammy Ong out of
>disgust over the opposition's squabbling. The opposition's plan for
>another EDSA did not and will not succeed because the people know the
>opposition's motives. Of the many witnesses paraded in the Senate
>Inquiry and media, not a single person would pass as a "credible
>witness".
>
>And why even calls for NOLI to resign also? Is Loren, who was teary
>eyed over the siding of Pimentel to the then opposition more popular to
>the masses, considering she was even rejected by the masses and even
>the opposition themselves when she decided to run as FPJ's running mate
>(since GMA could not really choose another woman as running mate?)? Do
>you honestly think also that Noli cheated Loren? Oh, C'mon!
>
>Who is their alternative? Who should lead us then? Angara and Lacson
>can't unify... Pimentel and Enrile are also at odds... Abat? Lumbao?
>Bayan Muna? and other left wing party groups who were present during
>toppling of ERAP? It seems like they are against every president. Just
>recently, they went on a presscon with the ESTRADAS joined hands? Is
>that what you call unity?
>
>According to the UP College of Psychology, the typical characteristics
>of a CREDIBLE WITNESS are :
>1) The witness is close to the person being accused
>* A good example given by the UP College of Psychology is Governor
>Chavit Singson who was part of Erap's inner circle or "midnight
>cabinet". He was very close to the Erap and practically knew the
>day-to-day activities of the former president which made him a credible
>witness in the impeachment trial.
>2) The witness has an untainted moral background
>* A go od example given by the UP College of Psychology was Clarissa
>Ocampo who testified that Erap signed the name Jose Velarde in front of
>her. Clarissa Ocampo was then Vice President of Equitable-PCI Bank with
>an unblemished record of integrity and professionalism.
>
>Now, lets say for instance that it is infact PGMA in the tapes, and it
>is Garcillano that she was talking to, MERON BA SIYANG SINABING
>MANDAYA!?! MERON BA SIYANG SINABING IBAHIN ANG RESULTA? MERON BA SIYANG
>SINABING DAGDAGAN ANG BOTO NIYA? MERON BA SIYANG SINABING SIGURUHIN ANG
>PAGKAPANALO NIYA? It is very clear... SHE WAS ASKING QUESTIONS ANY
>POLITICIAN WOULD. And do you honestly think that none of the opposition
>candidates talked to commissioners,
>regional directors of the COMELEC to ask their standing? or to assess
what
>was
>happening? PGMA merely asked if she was gonna still lead a million if
so
>and
>so...
>and that if Biazon loses in an area, so and so... They we questions.
NOT
>DIRECTIVES.
>
>MAYBE IF THE OPPOSITION ARE NOT SO HUNGRY FOR POWER AND UNITED. MAYBE
>IF PING BRO EDDIE ETC ALL GAVE WAY TO FPJ... MANINIWALA PA TAYONG
>NANDAYA NGA SI PGMA...
>MAYBE IF ALL AND I SAY ALL OF THE SURVEYS PRIOR TO ELECTION TIME DID
>NOT SAY PGMA WOULD DEFINITELY WIN, close but statistically significant
>lead. MANINIWALA PA TAYONG NANDAYA SI PGMA...
>
>MAYBE IF FPJ ANSWERED ALL INTERVIEW QUESTIONS DURING THE CAMPAIGN,
>ATTENDED DEBATES, ETC SO FILIPINOS WOULD KNOW HIS PLATFORM...
>
>BUT EVEN IF YOU PUT ALL VOTES TO FPJ FOR ALL THE PRECINTS ELECTION
>RETURNS THE OPPOSITION WANTED TO BE OPENED DURING THE CANVASSING AND
>ZERO TO PGMA, PGMA WOULD STILL WIN BY 600T. AND NOW THEYRE SAYING "DI
>SILA PINAGBIGYAN NA MABUKSAN ANG MGA BALOTA". Coz all they wanted was
>for congress NOT TO BE ABLE TO PROCLAIM a PRESIDENT by the 30th of JUNE
>when it should have so that everything would be in limbo since congress
>was already
>adjourned "SINE DIE".
>
>SO WHO REALLY WON? BRO. EDDIE WHO SAYS there were 2MILLION during his
>preelection rally? Roco who did not have a machinery? Lacson and FPJ
>whose votes were divided? OR GMA who was consistently top in the
>surveys, won in exit polls by GMA7 and ABS-CBN, DAILY INQUIRER, in an
>election that was pronounced "GENERALLY PEACEFUL AND CLEAN" elections
>by the CBCP, foreign governments, diplomats, international observers?
>
>WHO LOST? NO ONE DID... Coz nadaya silang lahat... And which election
>in the philippines was 100% fraud free? It was the opposition led by
>ENRILE who started DAGDAG BAWAS... thats why Pimentel is at odds with
>him because he los t in previous senatorial elections...
>
>DOES PGMA REALLY HAVE TO CONFIRM IS SHE WAS THE ONE IN THE TAPES? ITS
>REALLY UPTO HER. WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT NOW? DEAL WITH WHAT SEEMS TO BE
>AN OBVIOUS DESTABILIZATION ATTEMPT (IN A TIME WHERE THEY KNOW PGMA
>WOULD BE VERY VULNERABLE AND WEAK DUE TO VERY LOW RATINGS BROUGHT ABOUT
>BY HER UNPOPULAR BUT NEEDED PASSING OF VAT?
> INCREASE IN FUEL? ETC?)... OR FOCUS ON THE COUNTRY'S ECONOMIC
>RECOVERY AND PROBLEMS ON POVERTY???
>
>THEY SAY THAT PGMA'S ADMINISTRATION IS SUPPRESSING BASIC RIGHTS... Yes
>its true that DOJ, NBI, LTFRB issued warnings against these tapes, BUT
>HAS ANY SINGLE PERSON BEEN ARRESTED FOR POSSESSING IT? Lima singko nga
>sa quiapo, internet. Pinamumudmod pa ng opposition.
>Halos lahat ng tv at radio stations, lahat ng news.... NARINIG NA NG
LAHAT.
>So bakit pa kailangang pakinggan sa congress? This is DEFINITELY NOT A
>CASE LIKE THE SECOND ENVELOPE. The contents of the envelope were NOT
>known to ordinary people, NOT known even to the senators, NO ONE...
>until just recently... BUT THE TAPES... everyone knows... SO MAYBE
LET'S
>JUST USE THESE TAPES (which do not really prove fraud to begin with),
TO
>USE AND PROVOKE THE POOR FILIPINOS ULTIMATELY UNSEAT PGMA SO THAT THE
>DISUNITED OPPOSITION WITH NO DIRECTION COULD ONCE AGAIN BE IN POWER??
>
>MAG-IMBESTIGA AT ALAMIN NATIN ANG KATOTOHANAN !!!
>GAMITIN ANG TALINO... WAG ANG DAMDAMING PAMPELIKULA LANG! TAMA NA ANG
>MGA EXPERTO SA PANLILINLANG AT PAGARTE PARANG SA PELIKULA! WHAT THESE
>DESTABLIZERS ARE STAGING IS REALLY AN EXCELLENT SCRIPT THAT WOULD
>REALLY HURT ANY POOR FILIPINO'S HEART. TAMA NA ANG PAG-GAMIT SA MASANG
>PILIPINO.
>
>PLEASE PASS AND SPREAD THE TRUTH...
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TO THOSE WHO ARE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH - jueteng allegations and wiretap
>conversations
>
>Mag-imbestiga at Alamin ang KATOTOHANAN!
>
>KILALANIN ANG MGA PERSONALIDAD NA NAGBABATO NG AKUSASYON SA ATING
>ADMINISTRASYON AT HUMIHILING NA BUMABA SA PWESTO SI
>PGMA:
>
>1. Wilfredo "Boy" Mayor
>* Jueteng witness who admits to being a former operator of jueteng in
>the Bicol Region.
>
>* He claims to have given Monthly Jueteng Payola to bagmen of
>Congressman Mikey Arroyo.
>
>* He was an opposition candidate for Mayor in Daraga, Albay in the 2004
>elections. He lost the elections.
>
>* Mayor admits that he has no evidence to show that the money he cl
>aims to have given these bagmen went to Congressman Mikey Arroyo
>
>2. Richard Garcia
>* Jueteng witness who is a self-confessed former operator of the
>illegal numbers game in the Bicol Region.
>
>* He claims to have given Monthly Jueteng Payola to bagmen of
>Congressman Mikey Arroyo. He admits that he has no evidence to show
>that the money he claims to have given these bagmen went to Congressman
>Mikey Arroyo
>
>* A former member of the PC-INP and a known "asset" of Ping Lacson
>
>3. Sandra Cam
>* She claims to have personally given Jueteng Payola to Congressman
>Mikey Arroyo and Congressman Iggy Arroyo at the Congress Session hall
>(while Congress was in session). She claims to have deposited Jueteng
>Payola for former Region 5 Regional Director Gen. Restituto Mosqueda.
>
>* Ran for Mayor in Masbate under Reforma in the 2004 elections and
>lost.
>
>* Has a pending illegal recruitment case and pending large-scale estafa
>cases
>
>* Known in Bicol to have engaged in all possible illegal activities and
>to be "close" to generals previously assigned in the Bicol region. The
>staff of known hotels in Bicol would know this.
>
>* Reportedly a lover of Governor Tony Kho
>
>* linked to several election-related incidents, including dynamiting
>houses of political opponents, kidnapping and murder.
>
>* In her testimony before the Senate, Cam admitted to being a supporter
>of Governor Tony Kho, who has been charged with masterminding the
>killing of Representative Tito Espinosa. The case is still pending in
>court.
>
>4. Archbishop Oscar Cruz
>* Says that it is his personal advocacy to stop Jueteng
>
>* His name never came out during the 2000 impeachment trial where
>jueteng was a key issue. If it is the archbishop's personal advocacy to
>stop jueteng, why is it only now that Archbishop Cruz is coming out
>with all these witnesses and accusations ?
>
>* Previously hugged the headlines when he accused Pagcor chairman
>Efraim Genuino of using female employees of Pagcor as GRO's or Guest
>Relations Officer during a birthday celebration of First Gentleman Mike
>Arroyo. This was denied by the Pagcor chairman and the female employees
>themselves who apparently were with their families during the said
>birthday celebration.
>Archbisop Cruz made an apology to the families of the Pagcor female
>employees.
>
>And thanks to the Catholic Church for realizing early that Ong was not
>a man with a word of honor. They kicked Ong out of the seminary for not
>keeping the gentleman's agreement for not giving interviews to press
>while in the seminary.
>
>5. Alan Paguia
>* He initially claimed to be the source of the audio tape
>
>* Known to be a former lawyer of Erap and reportedly gets a monthly
>salary of 1 Million pesos a month from the detained former president.
>
>* License as a lawyer was suspended by the Supreme Court
>
>* His credibility and background was being questioned; and more
>critical, was his own admission that he made the annotation and thereby
>tampered with the original audio tape.
>
>6. Samuel Ong
>* Former NBI deputy director
>
>* Came out on National TV on June 10 and claimed that he was the source
>of the original copy of the audio tape and that it was given to him by
>an Intelligence official (ISAFP) who was later identified as Tech. Sgt.
>Vidal Doble. Doble claims that he was offered 2 Million pesos and his
>family was threatened by Ong.
>
>* Ong had often organized mass actions to support his ambition to be
>director of the NBI.
>
>* During the NBI investigation of the Dacer-Corbito murder case, the
>principal suspect Superintendent Teofilo Vina who could link Ping
>Lacson to the case was killed in Cavite in January 1993. It is known
>that Ong who was still influential then as deputy director had a hand
>in this to get Lacson of the hook. During the 2004 elections, he was
>ordered by Lacson to join the FPJ camp to serve as Lacson's eyes and
>ears.
>
>- AND AFTER ONG WAS BYPASSED BY ARROYO FOR THE TOP NBI POST and chose
>Wycoco instead.
>
>* He said that he fears for his life. One would wonder how these words
>would come fro m a person who once aspired to be an NBI director. He
>chose a career in the National Bureau of Investigation that entails
>agents to confront death threats on a daily basis. Was the media
>presentation, with Ong
almost
>crying out of fear for his life and character actor Rez Cortez beside
him a
>mere
>"sarzuela". WE SHOULD TAKE NOTE THAT SINCE PGMA BECAME PRESIDENT, THERE
>HAS NEVER BEEN A CASE OF AN EXECUTION OR PROLONGED INCARCERATION OF ANY
>OF HER CIVILIAN CRITICS INSPITE OF THE FACT THAT A LOT THESE CRITICS
>HAVE GONE OVERBOARD.
>
>7. Jose Marie Gonzalez - "voice expert"
>* Media's so called electronics and communications expert who initially
>said that the audio tapes were authentic and not tampered. What audio
>tape was he referring to when Paguia's version was (according to Paguia
>himself) recorded with annotation and thus was tampered. The other
>"so-called original" version was only released by Ong on June 10, 2004.
>
>* A former congressman and well-known Erap supporter
>
>* He slapped the house sargeant-at-arms in front of national TV during
>the transmittal of the impeachment complaint against Erap in late 2000.
>How uneducated and barbaric!
>
>* Was given a house in Subic and a brand new red Lincoln Navigator
>during Erap's presidency.
>
>* Reportedly got 10 million from Mayor JV Ejercito for coming out with
>his "expert opinion" on the audio tape.
>
>8. Senator Nene Pimentel
>* Senate President during the Erap administration.
>
>* resigned from then majority party when the envelope containing the
>Jose Velarde account was not allowed to be opened by majority of senate
>members.
>
>* Held the Microphone during PG MA's oath taking at Edsa 2.
>
>* Went back to criticizing PGMA when he was not chosen as Vice
>President after EDSA 2.
>
>* His No. 1 soldier is his long time ally in PDP Laban - Mayor Jejomar
>Binay. During EDSA 2, Binay brought in the goons to intimidate
>protesters from the business community in Makati. Since then, Makati
>has been the site of destabilization attempts against PGMA namely the
>Coup/Mutiny in Oakwood and their planned EDSA 4 in San Carlos last June
>11. Binay was one of the first people seen in San Carlos Seminary.
>
>* Still has ambitions to be president.
>
>9. Senator Ping Lacson
>* He once said that he despised and he never wants to be a politician.
>
>* He is on his 2nd term as senator and he ran for president during the
>2004 elections
>
>* has always portrayed a clean, incorru ptible image. he always says
>that he never took a single centavo from illegal means, jueteng
>included. He has also boasts of not utilizing his pork barrel.
>
>* Most generous when it comes to "envelopmental journalism". Lacson has
>a pool of media personnel on a monthly payola. Lacson's most effective
>media tool is mass-based publication Abante where Ping Lacson writes in
>a regular column. Mr. Allen Macasaet, Owner of Abante, reportedly has
>been receiving 5 million pesos a month from Ping Lacson since 2003 . 37
>year old Allen Macasaet, lives in posh Ayala Alabang and reportedly
>owns a Ferrari(worth 12 Million), a BMW 9 series (worth 11 Million), a
>Porsche 911 (worth 10 Million), a Jaguar (worth 8 million), a Range
Rover
>(worth 9 million), two Chevrolet Suburbans (worth 2.5 Million each), a
Ford
>E150 Chateau Van, and a Honda Accord - all purchased brand new.
Perhaps,
>his nei ghbors in Ayala Alabang can attest to Mr. Allen Macasaet's
>ownership of these luxury vehicles. NO WONDER 95% OF ABANTE HEADLINES
>IS ANTI-PGMA. And what a good choice of newspaper... masang masa...
>could readily reach millions of ordinary filipinos.
>
>* Now comes the Million Dollar Question ???? Where does Senator Ping
>Lacson (who boasts that he does not get his PhP 200 Million a year
>"pork barrel fund) get funding to finance a successful senate campaign,
>a decent but unsuccessful presidential campaign, and still afford a
>very generous media payola ???
>
>* He has been linked to kidnap-for-ransom of rich Fil-Chinese
>nationals, illegal drug trafficking, Kuratong-Baleleng massacre,
>Dacer-Corbito slay.
>
>* In 1993, Ping Lacson reportedly was getting the biggest monthly
>payola from jueteng lord and convicted rapist-murderer Mayor Antonio
>Sanchez of Calauan, Laguna. Thus, the attempt to cover-up Mayor
>Sanchez's crime by initially pointing to Kit Alqueza, son of general
>Dictador Alqueza, as the mastermind of the celebrated rape-slay of
>Aileen Sarmenta and boyfriend Allan Gomez. Ping Lacson was then head of
>PACC who presented the young Kit Alqueza to then vice-president Erap
>Estrada and media.
>
>* Ping Lacson has had access to suppliers of wire-tapping devices as
>early as his PACC days. During a raid of the CIDG after EDSA 2,
>wire-tapping devices purchased during Ping Lacson's term as PNP chief
>were confiscated from camp crame and stored in CIDG's warehouse. Said
>confiscated devices remain stored in the CIDG warehouse until this day.
>
>* With his seemingly infinite monetary resources and political clout as
>2nd termer senator, it is highly probable that Ping Lacson himself owns
>the latest model of wire-tapping/ bugging devices.
>
>* Even with the exposure of his links to people behind the audio tape,
>he was still the one who had the tape authenticated by a private
>australian firm.
>
>* He came out with the results from the Australian firm on the night
>Friday, June 10. How could he have gotten a copy of the original when
>Sammy Ong (who claims to be acting on his own and says he does not know
>Ping Lacson) only surfaced with the so-called original copy on the
>afternoon of June 10? The previously claimed original was the annotated
>and tampered version of Alan Paguia.
>
>* Ping Lacson's former men in the PACC that could implicate him in his
>criminal activities are either dead (Supt. John Campos, Supt. Teofilo
>Viña, Kit Mateo) or hiding in the US ( Michael Ray Aquino and Cesar
>Mancao). Lacson quickly points to his enemies as behind the execution
>of his former trusted aides. If this allegation were true, why would
>Lacson's enemies target his men instead of killing him (Lacson). The
>fact is Lacson ordered the execution and hiding of his former men
>before the May 2004 elections to make sure that no one could directly
>implicate Lacson in his criminal activities. Perhaps Samuel Ong should
>fear Lacson as Ong is also a
person
>who could implicate Lacson in the present destabilization moves.
>
>* After the 2004 elections, Ping Lacson became supportive of PGMA's
>government and even did not join the opposition's protest actions
>during FPJ's wake. He believed then that if he behaved this way, he
>would be a sure bet for President come 2010. However, he again started
>to be PGMA's biggest critic recently. Perhaps PGMA's illegal drugs
>campaign which has closed down the most number of Shabu Laboratories in
>recent years and anti-ki dnapping campaign is already affecting
>Lacson's treasure chest and he fears that by 2010, his funds would not
>be enough to run a successful presidential campaign against a popular
>Mar Roxas.
>
>10. Erap, Jinggoy, Loi and JV Ejercito
>* They clearly want one thing : to exact revenge on PGMA
>
>* This is very evident at how Senator Jinggoy and Loi have been
>grandstanding during the senate inquiry on jueteng.
>
>* Senator Jinggoy and San Juan Mayor JV Ejercito were one of the first
>people to join Sammy Ong ( who said that he was acting on his own and
>the he was calling on Ms. Susan Roces to join him) in San Jose
>Seminary. They were interviewed over ANC and both Jinggoy and JV
>attacked PGMA and repeatedly said that the opposition had an executive
>committee, with ERAP as ex-officio chairman, that was ready to replace
>the administration in case we are "miraculously swept into power".
>
>- Boracay mansion?, Rest house in Rizal? Laarni Estate?, Couple
>thousand pesos worth of wine consumed by Erap daily?, extravagant and
>lavish lifestyle of Estradas? Luxury cars, Vans, Resorts, owned by
>them? Ganon ba kaguapo at kaganda ang katawan para maging action star
>si Jinggoy para kumita ng milyon milyon sa pelikula? Erap's endless
>womanizing, morals, gambling, whose
only
>legit earnings mostly came from showbiz? against an already known rich
>family of the Tuasons and Arroyo's? - Who's probably more corrupt? Why
>not
attack
>PGMA directly? Coz they can't see any reason to attack? So they go
>attacking PGMA's family coz they don't know how to attack PGMA.
>
>We Filipinos should investigate further why key people coming out with
>all these accusations and calls on PGMA to step down have in one way or
>the other been linked to leaders in the opposition like Ping Lacson or
>Erap. We should not take everything that media comes out with as
>absolute truths since it is already our country's future that is being
>threatened by these people. During the wake of FPJ last year, it was
>already reported that the opposition was hatching a plan to bring down
>the Arroyo administration. The opposition clearly wanted to use FPJ's
>death to bring down PGMA. Susan Roces herself mentioned to a confidant
>during the wake that some opposition leaders then were convincing her
>to lead them in bringing down PGMA. If indeed the opposition had in its
>possession the audio tape that they claim to be a phone conversation
>made immediately after the May 2004 elections between PGMA and Comelec
>Commissioner Garcilliano, why did they not come out with the audio tape
>during the wake or burial of FPJ when
>millions of FPJ mourn ers were out on the streets ? It could have
easily
>resulted
>to an early end to the Arroyo administration. Perhaps they were still
>working on the tape with their "expert engineers" during that time.
>
>The people behind the efforts to bring down PGMA have not succeeded in
>spite of the desperate moves they have made primarily because they have
>never been united . They have several leaders who all want to be
>acknowledged as the legitimate and the unanimous opposition leader.
>There is Erap and his families who want to regain lost glory and power;
>there is a Ping Lacson who despises politicians and yet desperately
>aims to be president; and there is Nene Pimentel who still dreams of
>becoming president which he hopes would happen before his eye bugs
>covers his face. All these destabilization moves is a result of the
>individual aspirations of these people to grab power.
>
>Susan Roces has experienced this when the opposition could not even
>unite behind a strong FPJ during the 2004 elections. She experienced
>this during her husband's wake and burial when public sympathy was
>there but again the opposition was not united. She experienced this
>during the opposition's planned call for an EDSA 4 last June 11 when
>according to her confidant, the opposition were still fighting among
>themselves even during the early hours of June 11 on what moves to
>take. At around 2:30 am of June 11, Senator Ping Lacson, Senator
>Jinggoy Estrada, Senator Serge Osmeña, Senator Jamby Madrigal and Mayor
>Binay were in Manila Peninsula Hotel in Makati discussing their next
>steps but still arguing on the details as well as to who would be their
>leader when they succeed in bringing down PGMA. Susan Roces was
>supposed to call for their supporters to March to the st reets.
>According to her confidant, Susan Roces just decided to call for
>sobriety and just manifest her moral support for Sammy Ong out of
>disgust over the opposition's squabbling. The opposition's plan for
>another EDSA did not and will not succeed because the people know the
>opposition's motives. Of the many witnesses paraded in the Senate
>Inquiry and media, not a single person would pass as a "credible
>witness".
>
>And why even calls for NOLI to resign also? Is Loren, who was teary
>eyed over the siding of Pimentel to the then opposition more popular to
>the masses, considering she was even rejected by the masses and even
>the opposition themselves when she decided to run as FPJ's running mate
>(since GMA could not really choose another woman as running mate?)? Do
>you honestly think also that Noli cheated Loren? Oh, C'mon!
>
>Who is their alternative? Who should lead us then? Angara and Lacson
>can't unify... Pimentel and Enrile are also at odds... Abat? Lumbao?
>Bayan Muna? and other left wing party groups who were present during
>toppling of ERAP? It seems like they are against every president. Just
>recently, they went on a presscon with the ESTRADAS joined hands? Is
>that what you call unity?
>
>According to the UP College of Psychology, the typical characteristics
>of a CREDIBLE WITNESS are :
>1) The witness is close to the person being accused
>* A good example given by the UP College of Psychology is Governor
>Chavit Singson who was part of Erap's inner circle or "midnight
>cabinet". He was very close to the Erap and practically knew the
>day-to-day activities of the former president which made him a credible
>witness in the impeachment trial.
>2) The witness has an untainted moral background
>* A go od example given by the UP College of Psychology was Clarissa
>Ocampo who testified that Erap signed the name Jose Velarde in front of
>her. Clarissa Ocampo was then Vice President of Equitable-PCI Bank with
>an unblemished record of integrity and professionalism.
>
>Now, lets say for instance that it is infact PGMA in the tapes, and it
>is Garcillano that she was talking to, MERON BA SIYANG SINABING
>MANDAYA!?! MERON BA SIYANG SINABING IBAHIN ANG RESULTA? MERON BA SIYANG
>SINABING DAGDAGAN ANG BOTO NIYA? MERON BA SIYANG SINABING SIGURUHIN ANG
>PAGKAPANALO NIYA? It is very clear... SHE WAS ASKING QUESTIONS ANY
>POLITICIAN WOULD. And do you honestly think that none of the opposition
>candidates talked to commissioners,
>regional directors of the COMELEC to ask their standing? or to assess
what
>was
>happening? PGMA merely asked if she was gonna still lead a million if
so
>and
>so...
>and that if Biazon loses in an area, so and so... They we questions.
NOT
>DIRECTIVES.
>
>MAYBE IF THE OPPOSITION ARE NOT SO HUNGRY FOR POWER AND UNITED. MAYBE
>IF PING BRO EDDIE ETC ALL GAVE WAY TO FPJ... MANINIWALA PA TAYONG
>NANDAYA NGA SI PGMA...
>MAYBE IF ALL AND I SAY ALL OF THE SURVEYS PRIOR TO ELECTION TIME DID
>NOT SAY PGMA WOULD DEFINITELY WIN, close but statistically significant
>lead. MANINIWALA PA TAYONG NANDAYA SI PGMA...
>
>MAYBE IF FPJ ANSWERED ALL INTERVIEW QUESTIONS DURING THE CAMPAIGN,
>ATTENDED DEBATES, ETC SO FILIPINOS WOULD KNOW HIS PLATFORM...
>
>BUT EVEN IF YOU PUT ALL VOTES TO FPJ FOR ALL THE PRECINTS ELECTION
>RETURNS THE OPPOSITION WANTED TO BE OPENED DURING THE CANVASSING AND
>ZERO TO PGMA, PGMA WOULD STILL WIN BY 600T. AND NOW THEYRE SAYING "DI
>SILA PINAGBIGYAN NA MABUKSAN ANG MGA BALOTA". Coz all they wanted was
>for congress NOT TO BE ABLE TO PROCLAIM a PRESIDENT by the 30th of JUNE
>when it should have so that everything would be in limbo since congress
>was already
>adjourned "SINE DIE".
>
>SO WHO REALLY WON? BRO. EDDIE WHO SAYS there were 2MILLION during his
>preelection rally? Roco who did not have a machinery? Lacson and FPJ
>whose votes were divided? OR GMA who was consistently top in the
>surveys, won in exit polls by GMA7 and ABS-CBN, DAILY INQUIRER, in an
>election that was pronounced "GENERALLY PEACEFUL AND CLEAN" elections
>by the CBCP, foreign governments, diplomats, international observers?
>
>WHO LOST? NO ONE DID... Coz nadaya silang lahat... And which election
>in the philippines was 100% fraud free? It was the opposition led by
>ENRILE who started DAGDAG BAWAS... thats why Pimentel is at odds with
>him because he los t in previous senatorial elections...
>
>DOES PGMA REALLY HAVE TO CONFIRM IS SHE WAS THE ONE IN THE TAPES? ITS
>REALLY UPTO HER. WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT NOW? DEAL WITH WHAT SEEMS TO BE
>AN OBVIOUS DESTABILIZATION ATTEMPT (IN A TIME WHERE THEY KNOW PGMA
>WOULD BE VERY VULNERABLE AND WEAK DUE TO VERY LOW RATINGS BROUGHT ABOUT
>BY HER UNPOPULAR BUT NEEDED PASSING OF VAT?
> INCREASE IN FUEL? ETC?)... OR FOCUS ON THE COUNTRY'S ECONOMIC
>RECOVERY AND PROBLEMS ON POVERTY???
>
>THEY SAY THAT PGMA'S ADMINISTRATION IS SUPPRESSING BASIC RIGHTS... Yes
>its true that DOJ, NBI, LTFRB issued warnings against these tapes, BUT
>HAS ANY SINGLE PERSON BEEN ARRESTED FOR POSSESSING IT? Lima singko nga
>sa quiapo, internet. Pinamumudmod pa ng opposition.
>Halos lahat ng tv at radio stations, lahat ng news.... NARINIG NA NG
LAHAT.
>So bakit pa kailangang pakinggan sa congress? This is DEFINITELY NOT A
>CASE LIKE THE SECOND ENVELOPE. The contents of the envelope were NOT
>known to ordinary people, NOT known even to the senators, NO ONE...
>until just recently... BUT THE TAPES... everyone knows... SO MAYBE
LET'S
>JUST USE THESE TAPES (which do not really prove fraud to begin with),
TO
>USE AND PROVOKE THE POOR FILIPINOS ULTIMATELY UNSEAT PGMA SO THAT THE
>DISUNITED OPPOSITION WITH NO DIRECTION COULD ONCE AGAIN BE IN POWER??
>
>MAG-IMBESTIGA AT ALAMIN NATIN ANG KATOTOHANAN !!!
>GAMITIN ANG TALINO... WAG ANG DAMDAMING PAMPELIKULA LANG! TAMA NA ANG
>MGA EXPERTO SA PANLILINLANG AT PAGARTE PARANG SA PELIKULA! WHAT THESE
>DESTABLIZERS ARE STAGING IS REALLY AN EXCELLENT SCRIPT THAT WOULD
>REALLY HURT ANY POOR FILIPINO'S HEART. TAMA NA ANG PAG-GAMIT SA MASANG
>PILIPINO.
>
>PLEASE PASS AND SPREAD THE TRUTH...
"Unless you try to do something beyond what you have already mastered, you will never grow."
- ronald e. Osborn
- ronald e. Osborn